[she nods enthusiastically, trying to stay bright about this whole situation. It's hard, but if anyone can do it, she can!]

Yeah, definitely! I know so. You gotta be realistic about stuff to get things done yeah, but you can't move forward if you're down in the dumps! It's not naive to hope for something more. People who say that kinda stuff are just bitter jerks who don't want anyone else to be happy.