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Louis Cypher/Louisa Ferra/Lucifer ([personal profile] firstofthefallen) wrote in [community profile] animus_network2013-01-02 08:38 pm

Sixth Candelbram - Voice

What is strength to you, or what it is to be strong?

Alternatively, who is it that has right to rulership, or to command? Do you agree with the sentiment that those who are strong are superior and thus have greater rights than those who are weak?

And if that is the case: may the weak become strong?
tohko_amano: (excited)

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[personal profile] tohko_amano 2013-01-03 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
To me, being strong means I can help the people and things I care about any way I can without hurting others in the process.

As for who should rule..maybe the strong should help the weak get stronger as well and stand on equal ground!
lightofhumanity: For when chaos is feeling melancholy. (pondering)

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[personal profile] lightofhumanity 2013-01-03 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
People have different strengths and weaknesses. I think a person is truly strong when they use their strengths in ways that can overcome their weaknesses. That is my opinion though.

As for who should rule..ideally, people should live equally, not lording over or commanding others.
nodeviations: (well that sure is a thing)

NOT anon, wow!!!

[personal profile] nodeviations 2013-01-03 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
Strength is refusing to die until you choose to. Survival.

Rulership is to those who have the perseverance to handle dealing with idiots.

And the weak can become strong if they actually desire it hard enough.
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[personal profile] scentofmakai 2013-01-03 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
There's the people who can dominate you physically who are 'strong', and there's the people who won't break if you put them in a place like here who are 'strong'. They're both decent definitions.

People who talk about rights to rulership are asking for a long argument that never goes anywhere. I'm not saying there shouldn't be a ruler or people on top, just that no matter how you pick who's in charge, the people who aren't are going to have some problems with them.

Of course they can.
lightofhumanity: For when chaos is feeling melancholy. (pondering)

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[personal profile] lightofhumanity 2013-01-03 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I suppose so.

If everyone is truly on equal ground, they will not have to look to someone to lead them. However..a better leader would be one who helped and provided an example.
nodeviations: (it's really very simple)

[personal profile] nodeviations 2013-01-03 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
A sad truth. In my experience, most rulers have been forced to learn these qualities, or...

They've been eradicated. Someone always steps up to face their injustice through fury or anger, and topples the pyramid to rebuild and continue surviving.

I can't say the system is ineffective, in light of that. But mine may be luckier than most worlds, I suppose.
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[personal profile] divinitysoiled 2013-01-03 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
[You. Don't think she hasn't figured out it's you yet. But she feels like she has to answer this, so, text it is-]

Strength is living, no matter the cost. No matter who dies. No matter what you have to do to do it.
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[personal profile] tohko_amano 2013-01-03 02:59 am (UTC)(link)
Sure! I don't see why the strength would change just because you had to learn and work towards it.

And people aren't all alone! Even if they think they are, they always have someone around.
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[personal profile] scentofmakai 2013-01-03 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
The latter. The first can be taken away from you too easy.

You'd want people with empathy for other people but who can't easily be pushed around by those who know less than them.

Because I've seen people grow. There's no reason to ask if it's possible if you've seen it.
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[personal profile] tohko_amano 2013-01-03 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
Why not? If you can continue to be strong after someone else has taught you and helped you, why is that strength not yours?

..And constantly relying on people is rather silly..but if you can depend upon them when you really need them, then there's nothing wrong with that.
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[personal profile] divinitysoiled 2013-01-03 03:10 am (UTC)(link)
For certain ones, that is all they have.
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[personal profile] divinitysoiled 2013-01-03 03:13 am (UTC)(link)
[Oh fuck damnit]

And if they spit in the eye of those who say they are better off dead by killing them to live?
tohko_amano: (Huh?)

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[personal profile] tohko_amano 2013-01-03 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
But if people can help show you the strength that does lie in you and help you use it, then there's nothing wrong with that. It's still your own strength. A writer is helped by editors and other things, but the book they write is still their own!

...And what sort of situation would that be?
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[personal profile] lightofhumanity 2013-01-03 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
Sadly, it is true that people would still hold that believe. However, if they could bee reassured that they are equal when that comes up, then that problem might be avoided.

And it only hurts people if they overly rely on others.

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