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Xion ([personal profile] attheclocktower) wrote in [community profile] animus_network2013-07-22 05:14 pm

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Does anybody know what learned helplessness is? I tried looking in the library but all the books it looked like it would be in are gone.
duplicitousringleader: (you're all dead you just don't know it)

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[personal profile] duplicitousringleader 2013-07-22 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Did you boycott the collar checkups?
duplicitousringleader: (amused by stupidity)

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[personal profile] duplicitousringleader 2013-07-22 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Why didn't you?
immortalia: (☆ in repose.)

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[personal profile] immortalia 2013-07-22 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
[ Hope you're ready for tl;dr, Xion. ]

Learned helplessness is the condition of a human or animal that has learned to behave helplessly. The human or animal fails to respond even though there are opportunities for it to help themselves by avoiding unpleasant circumstances or by gaining positive rewards. The theory behind it is the view that clinical depression and mental illness may result from a perceived absence of control over the outcome of a situation.

Organisms that have been ineffective and less sensitive in determining the consequences of their behavior are defined as having acquired learned helplessness.

Is this a sufficient answer for your question?
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duplicitousringleader: (Default)

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[personal profile] duplicitousringleader 2013-07-22 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Look in the mirror. Or look at the people around you who are spouting off the same shit now that it's all over. That's exactly what learned helplessness is.

You get so caught up in thinking that bad things will happen if you act that you refuse to act, and then the bastards in charge win.
morituramfides: (and Where We roam)

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[personal profile] morituramfides 2013-07-22 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a psychology term.

When you take a rat and discourage it from protecting itself long enough, eventually it won't do anything even when there is a way it can help itself.

Even if it means they're all going to die.

Because they remember what it was like when they did try.
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[personal profile] crouching_sin 2013-07-22 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
^ Basically this

It means beating you until you just accept it, or in this case forcing us into collar checkups long enough that we just go along with it.
duplicitousringleader: (hush little baby don't you cry)

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[personal profile] duplicitousringleader 2013-07-22 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Better luck next time.

[The taunt is the last message Xion will get from this anon.]
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[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-22 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
[He sure did take the time to read the above replies first. Oh, replikid.]

Well, now that you know, you can get a start on fighting it. The hardest part is the first step.
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[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-22 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
[It's a direct reply to his anonymous comment, just to keep things clear.]

Unfortunately, I know from experience. ...If you want to talk, I'll be in the library, near the back.
morituramfides: (To the ground)

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[personal profile] morituramfides 2013-07-22 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
He's angry because he was wrong. He's angry because some of us are going against his expectations!

So, I guess you're right. But it takes a while to unlearn conditioning like that.
bloodyashes: (Totally not pouting)

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[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
[It's the usual spot, really - he's kind of taken over this back corner of the romance section, not far from a particularly isolated terminal. He dragged a beanbag chair up there at some point, even.

There's no novels in piles around him now, though. More important things to worry about.]


...Hey.

[He's... not really sure where to start. The whole thing has given him a lot to think about, too. Learned helplessness - he could have walked away from Van at any time, really, but it still took him seven years and the destruction of Akzeriuth to actually do so.]
bloodyashes: (Maybe he's born with it -)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
...No, if you're lucky about anything, it's seeing the truth before something irreversible happened.

[He glances off, sighs a bit.]

It really is taking the first step that's hardest.
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[personal profile] true_noir 2013-07-23 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
A curious little phenomena where you come to believe that nothing you do will ever change a situation, so you stop trying. Don't tell me this is about the collar boycott.
bloodyashes: ([F] That's because...)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
For you?

[He knows how far his goes. His goes back to Choral Castle and a visit home.]

I don't know. It goes back to when you started accepting things instead of acting.
immortalia: (☆ please calm down.)

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[personal profile] immortalia 2013-07-23 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
You are welcome.

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Sorry if it came across as harsh, though.

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