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Xion ([personal profile] attheclocktower) wrote in [community profile] animus_network2013-07-22 05:14 pm

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Does anybody know what learned helplessness is? I tried looking in the library but all the books it looked like it would be in are gone.
bloodyashes: ([F] That's because...)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
For you?

[He knows how far his goes. His goes back to Choral Castle and a visit home.]

I don't know. It goes back to when you started accepting things instead of acting.
bloodyashes: (Whoa what the hell -)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
[...Well, shit.

There's no missing that reaction, although Xion's forgiven for missing Asch's wide eyes in turn when she sinks down to the floor. No point in asking if she's okay because she's so obviously not. But he doesn't really know what to do. Any words of sympathy sound empty to him, and it's not like he had anyone to model after, anyone to support him when he turned away from Van.

(That's why it took so long. He didn't want to be alone. Wanted to keep clinging to the only person who told him things would be okay...)

After a long moment, he peels out of his seat and crouches next to her.]


You're not alone. I'm here.

[He's not going to say it will be okay, because it might not be. It probably won't be. And he won't be the person who lies to give people comfort.

But he'll stay. That's the mistake, the place Jason failed and Van succeeded. To make someone truly despair, you can't allow them to meet anyone else, anyone who might give them hope.

They're not alone, in this place, even if that's all they can do.]
bloodyashes: (So done w/ everything)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 06:09 am (UTC)(link)
[A slow breath. Yeah, it sounds familiar enough - to anyone who lived in Auldrant, really. He still doesn't really know what to say, though.]

If you don't like the options you have, make your own.

[A shake of his head, and a sour note in his voice.]

I suppose it doesn't matter much now, though.

[He's trying to not sound callous about it, but it's the truth. Even if they win, even if they can go back... They can't turn back time. Can't step back into their worlds and go back to the way things were.

He wishes he was more help. He knows the feeling of a hanging doom, at least, but he found his way out of it more by accident than design.]


All we can do is keep going forward.

[If there's irritation in his voice, it's at himself, not at her. Nothing he hates so much as being useless.]
bloodyashes: (You're not a total idiot)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 06:58 am (UTC)(link)
Wait - he?

[Asch. That is less important than the girl having a breakdown in front of you. Keep your replica issues to yourself. He tosses his head thoroughly because not important.]

It's your decision. Ultimately, if you ask me, that's what we're fighting for.

[The chance to make choices of their own, for themselves, unbound by any chains of prophecy or admin power.]
bloodyashes: ([F] OH GOD WHAT)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 08:00 am (UTC)(link)
[Yeah, okay, serious discussions are over, here. Admittedly Luke isn't perfectly identical to him, but...]

Fomicry doesn't work that way!

[You have officially broken his mind please hold.]
bloodyashes: ([F] I just got up :l)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 08:15 am (UTC)(link)
[World-specific terminology problems.]

The science of creating replicas. It creates perfect physical duplicates, or nearly perfect. Not...

[He gestures a little awkwardly. The point's pretty obvious.]
bloodyashes: (The chibi has a map -)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 08:29 am (UTC)(link)
...But that's...

[Congratulations, Xion, you have thoroughly flummoxed him. He certainly looks confused enough - just imagine the Asch version of this face instead of the one actually in the icon.]

Replicas on Auldrant don't have memories. They're born as blank slates.

[If they did, then proving himself to be the real Luke would have been six kinds of hassle.]
bloodyashes: (Totally not pouting)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 08:52 am (UTC)(link)
[He's paying careful attention, although he glances around at the flicker - no, no changes. Once the glamour is back in place, it holds steady.]

No, our replicas are nothing like that at all. Even as my perfect isofon, Luke will never get any of my memories.

[And if Luke had had his memories, would Asch have lost them? Or would there simply have been no way to tell, which of them was real and which the replica?]

He wasn't in a state to take any kind of orders after he was born, either; some replicas are programmed with basic tasks, but most of them are helpless as infants.
bloodyashes: (You're not a total idiot)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 09:15 am (UTC)(link)
It seems to be. Then again, I suppose the methods were created by different people.

[A physical copy formed of Seventh Fonons, compared to a creature seemingly literally made of memories... At least Xion containing the memories of a girl explains her form.]

On Auldrant, programmed replicas usually have some level of repressed personality and emotion - the more they're programmed, the less human they behave. The worst cases have no reasoning power of their own and are good for little but cannon fodder.

[Which is exactly what Van used them for, he's sure. After all, when you're sucking up all the Seventh Fonons by replicating the planet, a few human-sized replicas here and there won't make much difference.]

In that respect, I suppose you're lucky.
bloodyashes: (Maybe he's born with it -)

[personal profile] bloodyashes 2013-07-23 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
[Puppets. And yet out of all people on Auldrant, it's replicas who do not dance to the Score's strings, replicas who drove them off that road of destruction.]

Some things aren't.

[And not every puppet was a replica, either.]

But you can still refuse to play along, just like anyone else.