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[looselips]

alright, since we're back to asking played out, meaningless philosophical questions in between, you know, posts of actual value, I figure we MUST be bored.
so, in my infinite generosity, I'm putting up another one of these.
don't worry, no need to thank me! I'm just looking out for everyone's best interests.

same drill as the last time.
select "anonymous" and go nuts.
talk some trash, make that love confession you're too spineless to say otherwise, play anonymous hangman.
you'll feel better afterwards.

(seriously, though, friendly reminder: no1curr.)

Comments

[great_king_of_evil]

Because nobody back then had better suggestions doesn't mean what you did was right. Things were happening. It was maybe slow, but people weren't as inactive as you pretend.

I am not whining about it. I am simply saying you need to stop doing as you please. You even admit you didn't know what would happen. What if it had gone even worse? I agree risks are to be taken, but you don't have the right to play with the lives of everyone. If you think you do, then you are exactly like the administrators.

[attheclocktower]

What should we do then? Nothing? Ask everyone in the Tower what we should do and all agree before anything gets done? The last times we've had group meetings about stuff like that they haven't gone well, not to mention it'd be impossible to keep it from the admins.

I understand what you're trying to say but I just don't think it could happen if we want to actually do anything. We can't change what happened. All we can do is keep pressing forward and if we slow down now I'm even more scared what would happen.

[great_king_of_evil]

I am not saying we should get everyone to agree. I know it's impossible. I am saying a handful people shouldn't decide for everyone else. A minority shouldn't act for the majority. Nobody elected them and they left nearly everybody in the dark when they acted.

And just look here at this post, half the replies I have gotten from them or people agreeing with them are aggressive in nature. It feels like other ways of thinking are not tolerated and we just should agree with their methods and shut up. It's not helping how I feel about them, it sounds wrong.

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[warriorscribe]

You compared them to the administrators; I wouldn't blame them for feeling personally offended.

Whatever we as Pandora truly are, morally, we are certainly not on the level of a cannibalistic madwoman who devours any who disagree with her methods.

[anon]

[midgarhorizon]

So what the hell do you propose we do?

Revealing the glamour was the first step on figuring out the truth here so we could do something about it, and nobody can say we'd be better off with it intact, with us being subjects for their torture and experiments for as long as they kept us reviving. Who the hell knows how long the Tower would have had power if the reactors didn't go. Maybe it'd wind up being thousands of years. I'd rather fucking die than spend that long here.

Sitting around just because a few people got discontent over other people's actions is going to do a whole lot of nothing. The people will never fully agree on any one course. There's a faction here that would be dicks and say no to anything that didn't favor them over everyone else, and that'd end up being a giant wrench in the gears. At least someone is taking action. Just letting the place blow up would solve everything but I think that's one thing all people can agree they don't want happening.

If you got some suggestions on what to do that'd make everyone clap their hands over I'd love to hear it.

Tell the class, otherwise shut up and let them do something.

[great_king_of_evil]

You speak as if this was the only mean existing to uncover the glamour. Discoveries had happened before that, people were doing them, slowly but surely and without ruining our chances to success.

I would rather not stay her for thousands of years, but I also believe breaking the power source was a bad thing. At least we had time to act. Now we don't. It's surrealistic to believe anything will be accomplished on such a grand scale in six months. I want to believe it, it just doesn't sound reasonable.

Again the same argument. No, I do not currently have a better suggestion and it is not the matter. But breaking everything is not a better alternative to doing nothing. There is not even a long-term plan. Now we have a deadline and no means to do anything.

[midgarhorizon]

Nobody's ruined our chances to success, I'd say they increased. Who's to say having more time wouldn't have put us under more of their influence or had them completely chain our souls here so we started thinking all their shit is sunshiney rainbow poop popsicles and lick their boots and beg for more.

At least we know what's real and what's not because of Pandora. We've got the means. That is the means. The problem is action, and we need to take it now while we can, and not sit on our asses listening to people complain when they don't have any ideas.

At the worst, this way we know it will end and when.

[anon still]

[brbtalkingtogod]

This is the best I've heard so far anon, I couldn't have put it better.

[brbtalkingtogod]

So your propose would have been to let everything continue as it was and wait until the administrators had us completely brainwashed + rinsing? Sorry, but I doubt that anyone here would have been happy to give themselves up like that unless they have been forcefully broken into pieces, aside from those taking joy in watching others in pain.

Really? Then what are you doing, anon? Putting the blame on someone is easy, taking a step to make a change yourself is harder than it seems. After all there are enough people in this place who do as they please but no one knows about.