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What is strength to you, or what it is to be strong?

Alternatively, who is it that has right to rulership, or to command? Do you agree with the sentiment that those who are strong are superior and thus have greater rights than those who are weak?

And if that is the case: may the weak become strong?

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i guess it means to be able to kick lots of ass
and to face everything with courage
and to stand by your convictions and promises
even if it hurts you
but for the leadership thing it depends
people who become rulers learn to becomes strong sooner or later, right?
and i dunno about superiority, but i like to protect the weak

Edited 2013-01-03 16:47 (UTC)

Quite a primal strength then. I can appreciate that a great deal. But it takes more than that. To stand by your convictions, I will admit, is a good companion to such.

They do. But all rulers are, inevitably, displaced by those stronger than them.

Why protect them?

right thing to do, i guess
that and it's more fun when strong people fight each other
and not pick on weak people

I agree.

There is little enjoyment, little reason, for the strong to attack the weak.

However the weak, if unable to defend themselves, reap what they deserve should one of the strong be petty enough to do so.

It is their lot in their life.

what do you mean by reaping what they deserve
and there's different kinds of strong
so if you end up being one of the petty strong people
in the end your strength is wasted
and you end up turning weak

There are but I'm not talking about mere physical strength but strength all around. What makes one truly strong is being powerful, and skilled in all things.

Pettiness is a virtue. It allows us to remember where we were and how we went wrong.

The weak must either become strong under their own power in order to ensure they are not a waste of the space and resources they use or they must die out to make way for the strong. In the end, natural selection will weed them out.

but they'll never become strong if not given the chance
so why not protect them until they get that chance

Because they have the chance immediately.

I will never understand the reasoning you possess, or the concept so many societies have of "protecting" or helping others, even children.

Some things must be taught. But most must be learned on their own.

i can't even count the times i would've died if my mom, my uncle, my teacher, and my friend weren't looking out for me
what, could you pick yourself up and run into battle while still wearing diapers?

Edited 2013-01-08 17:55 (UTC)

Yes.

To kill is what I was created for when I was created among the first of all sentient things to serve Him.

were you directly made by a God
never met one of those heroes before

The God.

There are gods. And then there is God.

care to explain the difference?
is the God you speak of mightier than others?

Nothing could have existed without the proclamation of the God I speak of.

The sun, the stars, the moon. Heaven and earth and land and water.

All other gods and demons came into existence because of His actions. And thus He lords above all others.

But He is also no longer relevant.

how can a god who made everything including other gods no longer be relevant
did some other god rise up and kill him

He created man, which can exceed the power of all other gods. And of Himself.

And His petty tyranny, which God so clings to, assured that He would eventually reach such irrelevancy. That man would cast Him down.

so you're saying humans will beat god because he's an ass
i can get behind that
but how does this tie in to your whole argument about strength

It doesn't.

You asked if I could kill since birth. I answered I could, and the reason why, which led into this diatribe.

okay that's you
rest of humanity can't do that
even if they can grow strong enough to topple god
you're gonna have to give it time

I agree. Your point being?

I believe it is right to show man a way to live, but wrong to assist them in living that way. They must do so under their own power. No matter how old or youn they are.

and what if someone like god comes after them
what then

Then I suppose they must just do their best with whatever assistance they can find.

Then again.

Man often rises to the challenge when God presents Himself.

got any specific examples?
like, not just fighting against nature or bad luck
actively fighting against something that god obviously did

I do. Though why you need this is bizarre, unless you mean to nitpick.

Needless to say. There is an example living here.

The man who slew God and stopped God's destruction of the human world and the Abyss resides here now, a prime example of what man might be and can do and above all, a true hero.

WOW REALLY?
what's his name?

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