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[carabina]

A question, tower residents.

If a person does not have a soul, would you still consider them a person? Are they different from people who do have souls? What makes them different from others?

( ooc: Mami will reply as anon, of course. )

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[littlelifeforms]

It is a most complicated question. From one world to another, the very meaning of what a soul is differs greatly. Many claim souls to be merely a belief with no rational basis- Therefore in such a system a person lacking a soul would be normal. However, many others believe it to be the immortal core of our existence and what makes us individuals.

Before I can answer, may I ask, what it is you mean by "soul"?

anon;

[titties]

They're still human, aren't they?

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[doesnotgetit]

If they act and feel like a normal person, I don't see why they wouldn't be considered one. There's just something a little different about them, that's all.

[carabina]

That's true.
I guess what I mean by soul is...
It's hard to explain. I guess the spiritual part of a human being, as well as their emotional and moral nature?

[carabina]

I would assume so.
I just don't want them to lose their sense of morality
and turn into monsters.

[carabina]

That's true.
Maybe I'm looking too deep into this.

anon;

[hideandhero]

I knew a guy like that. What I wouldn't give to have him here.

[titties]

It's the actions of people that decide that sort of stuff, not what they're made out of.

[littlelifeforms]

I see.

Going by your definition, I would say that yes, they are different from people who have a soul. However, they still are persons and should be seen as such. The lack of a soul may not hinder their intelligence, their ability to learn and understand, to evolve in function of the situations.

Furthermore, they may be self-conscious, aware of their existence and action. In my world, these are criteria that define sentience. And with sentience comes the right to be considered a "person".

[fuhgeddaboudit]

I don't know. What exactly is a soul?

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[terreifying]

that really depends
if they look and act and think the same
and they remember the same things
and they feel the same way
then yes, they're the same
just the thing called a soul isn't the sum of a person

[oathshackledbird]

[Diarmuid has a pretty good feeling he knows who this is but just on the off chance it is actually one of her students instead, he says nothing. Besides, he's heard how unreliable filters and locks on posts can be and doesn't trust them with something as sensitive as this.]

I can't claim to be an expert on soul removal, but I would question if it is actually possible to fully sever someone's soul from their body. I would think that even if you have some physical proof of its removal, that doesn't mean that it's still not linked to you and functioning just as a soul otherwise would. In which case, does it really matter if it has been removed or not? It is still with you and functioning even if not connected to you in the same way as it originally was.

That you worry enough to ask such a question seems to be proof of that to me, anyway.

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[mask_of_suffering]

I don't think it matters.

My soul is all messed up, but I'm still the same person I was before that happened. I think the same applies if you lost your soul somewhere along the way.

[carabina]

Really? How does be handle it?

[carabina]

It's kind of hard to explain.
It's the spiritual part of a being, and their emotional and moral nature.

[carabina]

Would they still be considered a person if they lost all sense of humanity?

[hideandhero]

...I don't think he knows.

But it doesn't make him any less human, if that's your concern.

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[clumsyjesus]

[This question hits a little close to home...] I'm not sure what you mean by that. Do you mean is someone still a person if they have lost it? [Because that sort of happened to her....although she got returned to normal.]

[fuhgeddaboudit]

Kind of like their heart? Can someone think and feel things for themselves without a soul?

filter;

[carabina]

[ Ah. Mami looks down at her hands and quickly sets a filter on before replying to him. ]

I guess there's that.
My soul is technically still with me.
But there are other people who share my fate.
And they'll turn into monsters if they lose all sense of humanity.

I don't want to lose them.

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[mayatama]

A person's a person, whether they have a soul or not, right?

[terreifying]

maybe
it depends on how their emotions and ideas would work
but you can still be a person without being a human

[text]

[prayed]

[...Ah. That sounds familiar.]

Who cares? It's not like it changes anything. There's no point in worrying about something like that.

Filter;

[oathshackledbird]

I thought it might be you, but I didn't want to assume in case it was one of your peers. You need to have more faith in yourself and your friends. You know now what will happen if you lose your humanity. And they theirs. Won't that help you make sure you don't?

[carabina]

When does it start to matter?
When you lose yourself?