fionnuisce: (it was your heart on the line)
Lord El-Melloi II [AU] ([personal profile] fionnuisce) wrote in [community profile] animus_network2013-07-07 02:40 pm

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I can't help but notice a handful of people actually following along with that little collar-based rebellion only just mentioned on this very network.

You're all idiots. Allow me to outline the problems with this ill-conceived notion.

I: 'But we didn't need check-ups all last month!'

This is a true statement, I will concede that point. However. Consider that last month, Ruana was in control of this tower. And consider if you will the idea (which I have not yet seen contradicted) that she is the most powerful of the current administration. Have we any reason not to theorize that perhaps she was maintaining us herself through some means of which we are unaware?

As I've previously stated, I trust basically nothing I see or experience in this tower while she is in control. Least of all after that incident with the wireframes. For all we know, she has the ability to keep us functioning without sleep or collar check-ups for the entirety of her month if not longer.

II: 'The collars themselves are probably just limiting us!'

No. That's stupid. You don't know what these collars do any more than I do. Now, if you want to stop doing what's been keeping us alive (for a given value of the word) and functioning? That's your choice. But don't pass it off as some high and mighty brilliant revolution instead of the blind idiocy that it is.

Now, maybe this will work. As I just said, I have no idea what these collars actually do. However, I find there are far better ways to rebel than 'let's all stop doing the thing that probably maintains us!' When you have solid evidence that the collars are limiting our souls or powers? I'll acknowledge that and admit some course of action should be taken. Until then, you're grasping on to anything labeled 'rebellion' that you can find, even when it's a stupid idea.

III: 'We have to fight against this tower somehow!'

You're absolutely right. Of course we can't stand idle in this place or simply accept the way it functions. But tell me this: Which of the current administrators has shown any benevolence towards us?

Now tell me this: Which administrator is currently in control?

Hint: They're the same administrator.

Now do you think it wise to stage your grand ill-conceived rebellion while this place lies under the jurisdiction of the one administrator who seems to be at all sympathetic to us? Do you really want to risk alienating him completely due to the actions of a small and stupid group? If you must try this suicidal foolishness, stage it during Jason's or Ruana's months. Remember them? You know, the ones that actively make us suffer?

I won't argue that we need to fight back, because anyone with a brain can see that. But choosing one's battles is a wise course of action, as is not fighting that battle stupidly and with no information.

Edited to add: We have solid proof of retrieval units following individuals around. Now while I think that a consequence of fighting against this place, do you really wish to draw their attention doing something you have no proof will succeed to begin with, rather than fighting a battle there's some slightly better chance of winning?

IV: You're All Going To Get Yourselves Killed.

I should say the title of this section speaks for itself. However, if this works, you need to realize it will do so through dumb blind luck. More likely those participating in this will suffer, die whatever value of death you feel like assigning to this place, or any other list of unpleasant possibilities. So don't come crying to me if and when that happens, because I'll just say 'I told you so' and probably laugh derisively.


In summary? All of you engaging in this little collar boycott are either ill-informed, stupid, or both. I would advise those of you with intellect or common fucking sense to dissuade those showing interest in this. I think I've covered the most urgent and pressing points. If there are any questions, comments, or smart remarks of 'what the hell do you know', please leave them here or in the mailbox of Lord El-Melloi II. I'm not hard to find.
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[personal profile] colonial 2013-07-07 07:18 pm (UTC)(link)
are we gonna do the thing where a bunch of people make a bunch of stuff about the same thing and then the network gets turned off?

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[personal profile] doctor_dismemberment 2013-07-07 07:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Coming from someone who only ever had the "pleasure" of reading the incident the person above me is talking about after the fact?

If that happens again, I will literally stab myself in the face and film it for all of you.

(If anyone replies with "please do that" or something of the like, I will stab someone else in the face.

And film it for all of you.)

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immortalia: (☆ please calm down.)

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[personal profile] immortalia 2013-07-07 07:43 pm (UTC)(link)
...Is it wrong if I am also worried about what the other administrators may do to Zo if this gets out of hand?

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cullscuttlefish: (ask them my questions)

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[personal profile] cullscuttlefish 2013-07-07 07:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't forget the retrieval units. You really do not want one.

[Feferi's is still behind her.]
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[personal profile] attheclocktower 2013-07-07 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Like I said on the other post, there have been times where not having your collar checked up have had side effects. One month, a year ago, none of the admins were really paying attention to the Tower, and we didn't have any. And by the end of the month, we were getting really lightheaded, and people with powers started to lose control of them.

My friend pointed out that the same sort of thing happened when one time people got the wrong collar colors.

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[personal profile] nobarnacles 2013-07-07 08:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll admit that you certainly seem like you've put a considerable amount of thought into this, but let me offer a few counter-points:

1. If we are to rebel against any of these administrators, why not do it against the one known to be kindest? Getting the attention, negative or not, of the benevolent overlord seems far less foolish than aggravating the more sadistic ones.

2. While I don't find the notion of the collars limiting our powers a great motivation for refusing to attend a checkup, I do take offense to anything that's a token of someone else's control over me. If that isn't reason enough for you to be bothered, then we probably don't have much to talk about.

3. I don't really mind dying. There's not much to lose.

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[personal profile] great_king_of_evil 2013-07-07 08:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, so many words to hide how afraid you are. I see you are experimented in this domain. The gift of the silver tongue, the mark of a cultivated man... And of a liar.

The usual tactic, it never gets old. Undermine those actually willing to take risks and move. Make them look like fools and ignorant toward the masses, only for your own behavior to be seen as true bravery and wisdom when it is only well-disguised cowardice.

You are so willing to discuss how others are misinformed, but allow me to inform you that the extent of your knowledge about this tower is incredibly limited. You speak as if last month had been our only experience with missing collar-checks. This has happened before. Nothing bad happened, well at least to those strong willed...

If only it was all... Yet, allow me to add another thing. You speak of Zo as if he were an ally. As if we had to somehow be nicer to him than to anyone. Yet he is Ruana's puppet. Noble feelings you have, yet if you truly entertain the hope to see Ruana fall, know that the boy will stand before her and protect her to the last of his breath.

He is no ally. He is as much of an enemy as all the other administrators. And if you truly wish to oppose the tower, he too shall fall someday.

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ghostytrainer: (i'm not so sure about that.)

[personal profile] ghostytrainer 2013-07-07 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
ok, i don't disagree with you on what you're saying but you really might want to think about going back and doing a little rewording.
calling people idiots isn't any better than what the other guy did.
it isn't the smartest idea, i agree, but people aren't stupid for making that choice.
people have their reasons beyond just the blind leading the blind.


(also you have 2 third points, jsyk.)

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puppy_lancer: <user name=curtainfire> (thy rights shall guard)

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hey, if people wanna do this, let them
just focus on keeping the people around you safe

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oathshackledbird: Calm (Calm)

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[personal profile] oathshackledbird 2013-07-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
For what it is worth, I agree with you on this. While ill-thought out plans and random attacks may gain little bits of information here and there, considering what we are facing the toll we will have to pay for that information will probably be much higher in the long run than the value of any information gathered.

Not to mention there will be innocents who are forced to suffer along with those who actively rebelled. Whether or not people think Zo an innocent is their choice, but considering his age and inexperience it is likely he will also suffer in some way should things like this happen on his watch. For all we know, they may decide to remove him from the rotation completely leaving us to face the others more often.

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[Video Locked.]

What terminal are you at?

[Diarmuid's previously calm expression grows sterner and more concerned.]

Don't give me any of the foolishness that was in your letter either. Besides the fact that you could hardly write straight, I felt what happened. You are NOT okay.

[Might someone be slightly worried about his friend being tainted by the corruption he knows Avenger carries? Yep...]

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frilliance: (What is the meaning behind this?)

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[personal profile] frilliance 2013-07-07 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It's quite frightening to see how many individuals on the network are actually willing to go ahead with this foolishness.

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[personal profile] no_longer_a_king 2013-07-08 03:32 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. If this were any other month, I would say this is a good idea, but not when it is Zo in charge.

Furthermore, we might have been able to go without check ups for a month not due to Ruana, but because the check ups themselves might intentionally be done more often than necessary in case something like last month happens. Or the months I've heard of where the Tower almost lost power entirely.


[Not entirely, if the Glamour System was still up and running.]

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[personal profile] keybearer 2013-07-10 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
This whole protest is going to flop. I know you've already heard about last June, but as someone who showed up around then, I'm not looking forward to the repercussions of this mess.

I think what's even more disturbing is the fact that so many don't even care if this kills them. I just can't wrap my head around all the people who actually want death.

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