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[ou] willow rosenberg

[002 ★ text ★ crazy backdated to before the moving event]

Someone told me that all of the trolls are having trouble sleeping here. I think I can help.

I've made sleep satchets before, these little things that you put under your pillow and guarantee pleasant dreams for a couple months before they run out. The problem is that I only came with so many spell ingredients in my trunk, so unless I can find a way to replace some of this stuff, I can't make these forever.

Not that asking this question will necessarily result in anything resembling the truth, but: does anyone need one more than anyone else?

Asking all this out of the goodness of my heart and preferential treatment, I promise.

[filtered from wwaterboy]

And now to the other part of this post. Also to trolls, sorry. If someone could explain how this matesprit thing actually compares with the human concept of romance, that would be seriously of the good, because I don't know what I'm doing here and I think I need more than the ten second summary if I am going to be doing this.

Which, let me repeat, since I don't know what I'm doing, no judging or yelling at me! I will yell back. That is so not what I need right now. I'm trying to do the right thing and honor my feelings and not stay all hung up on people that have died, which is difficult! But I've never done this "oh, and he also hatesexes someone regularly, but that's not cheating" concept before, and I want to get it right.

It seems bitchy to ask him to explain this stuff to me himself, so... advice. Please? And if you could honor the incredibly obvious filter, that would be great. Don't make me go hacker on you.

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fuckiing hell.
you thiink troll2 aren't 2elfii2h?
we practiically wrote the book.
but the emotiion2 are very diifferent, are you 2ayiing that you only have one relatiion2hiip at a tiime, ever? ii know you don't becau2e you have that friiend dii2ea2e and have biilliion2 of the thiing2!
ii piity aradiia and hate eriidan.
when ii'm wiith eriidan ii don't go worryiing about aa and thiinkiing about her, ii'm focu22ed on my relatiion2hiip wiith the fiinface.
but he ha2 no riight two iinterfere when ii'm wiith aa, eiither, that'd be ju2t wrong.
and piityiing aa doe2n't affect how ii feel about eriidan 2o iit'2 completely unrelated!

Friends are different. You don't sleep with friends! Well, you can, but that's not-- I'm just going to spare you the friendship lecture, okay?

I think I get what you're saying, anyway. They're just different types of relationships. So is there a protocol for how you act around your matesprit's kismesis? Are you supposed to hate them, too, or something?

ii don't 2ee what diifference iit make2 iif you don't 2leep wiith them.
there'2 no protocol, and you don't have two hate hiim, ju2t try not two 2tart au2piitiicii2iing or you'll wiind up iin a me22.

It's just totally different. Friends are always platonic, and when they aren't platonic anymore, it's a big problem. Besides, I think you got the wrong impression about the "friendship disease". If you think there's never jealousy over friend-cheating, you are oh so wrong. Just because we don't slap 'em and declare one person our moirail doesn't mean we don't feel like they are. We just don't use that word.

Wait, what's auspiticising? [That word is really hard to decipher in your quirk, thanks, Sollux.]

then ii 2tiill don't get iit.
iif you can have multiiple friiend2 even wiith jealou2y exii2tiing, then why can't you be mate2priit2 wiith a troll who ha2 a kii2me2ii2?
2ure 2ometiime2 you miight feel jealou2, but ju2t becau2e he'2 got 2omeone two hate doe2n't mean he piitiie2 you any le22.
2o you get over iit and get extra 2appy when you 2ee hiim agaiin, and iif he doe2n't giive you tiime becau2e he'2 2pendiing two much tiime on hii2 hate date2, you tell hiim you're feeliing iignored.

iit'2 the fourth quadrant you diidn't mentiion.
an au2piitiice mediiate2 between two troll2 who hate each other, u2ually two *prevente* black cheatiing.
2o no meddliing iin the kii2me22iitude.
they get two hate each other iin whatever way they want, and you ju2t have two tru2t that eriidan won't get culled by hii2 2ollux.

[Here Willow. Have someone who's not thirteen lskjdf Calmly ignores the beginning part of this. There are def other trolls who need that more then him, yep yep yep. Also ignoring the part where he thinks it's weird for a troll to be romantically interested in a human. To each their own and all that]

pOSSIBLY IT WOULD BE, uH, aN EASIER THING TO COMPARE,
iF YOU EXPLAINED HOW HUMAN ROMANCE WORKED, aS WELL,
eSPECIALLY SINCE, hE WILL PROBABLY ALSO WANT TO KNOW WHAT YOU ARE EXPECTING, aT SOME POINT,
iF YOU DECIDE TO CONTINUE,

You're not supposed to have one friend, but you're supposed to have one significant other. It doesn't work out the same.

I'm not saying I can't be just because he has a kismesis, and I don't want to meddle! This is me, not meddling, asking questions so I don't mess things up for him. That's the opposite of what I want. I'm trying to deal with this before it is an issue, so that I don't sign on for something I didn't expect.

But I definitely don't want to interfere. You don't know how awful I'd feel if I came between anyone. I've done that before and I never want a repeat.

Edited 2012-01-04 05:21 (UTC)

[Oh he's just going to have one slid under his door later because she just assumed he'd get one. B)

But back to the actual conversation--]

You have a point, I just don't know where to start. It all seems so obvious to me. I told you when we met that we don't do the quadrant thing-- we don't put so many labels on our relationships. It's a lot more fluid.

but why are you '2uppo2ed' two?
you're talkiing about datiing a troll 2o iit'2 diifferent.
troll2 are 2uppo2ed two have four quadrant2 iif they can pull iit off.
and iif we don't have the concupii2cent one2 we'll get culled 2ooner or later.
iif we don't have at lea2t a moiiraiil we'll get two viiolent.

2o long a2 you don't iinterfere, you won't fuck thiing2 up wiith hii2 other quadrant2.
you can liike them or not, or even not talk two them at all.

I'm saying that I'm supposed to, not that he is. I know that it's different for all of you, and it's not like I'm not used to other species having different standards for this. It was just never something I got involved in. I'm trying to adjust!

[She tries to tone down the defensiveness, because she really is grateful for all of this advice.]

 Okay, I can do that. I can really do that.

Thank you.

all ii can 2ugge2t ii2 eiither get u2ed two iit or don't date troll2.
or iif you've got two date a troll, date 2omeone wiith fewer quadrant2 fiilled, and two be hone2t ii doubt that'2 realii2tiic.

no problem, wiillow.
good luck, ii gue22.

I can tell you from experience that me trying to ignore how I feel about someone just ends with major badness. We'll see how this goes. If Xander can date a vengeance demon that spent a thousand years enacting gruesome, creative violence on cheating men, I can totally handle this.

You know, Aradia was right. You are a nice guy.

woah, that 2ound2 iinten2e.

2ure ii am, u2ually.
mo2tly.
diid you doubt her?

hEH, yES,
oUR QUADRANTS ARE, uH, oBVIOUS FOR US TOO,
sO MAYBE, sTART SIMPLE,
uH, tHE MOST OBVIOUS THINGS FIRST,
aND WE CAN, wORK FROM THERE,
fOR INSTANCE, i GUESS i'M NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN BY "more fluid",
oR HOW YOU CAN, hAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITHOUT A LABEL ON IT,

Yup. We turned her human, too, actually, so it was a mess.

Mostly is what counts, and I obviously couldn't doubt her with the sort of expression she had when she was talking about you.

[Shamelessly flattering? Absolutely. Willow could never turn up an opportunity to pass along a compliment.]

um
what 2ort of expre22iion?

The sort that said she's completely hung up on you. You might say there was blushing.

Edited 2012-01-04 05:58 (UTC)

really?
2he blu2hed?

Absolutely positively. I asked her about you and only good things were said.

well
thank2.

Any time.

Just returning a favor.

[Aradia nods and considers]

Okay. Well, the fourth isn't really relevant for now unless you're planning black romance with someone else's kismesis which I find unlikely. Although, admittedly, I wasn't sure humans were even capable of black romance at all so maybe I might stand to be corrected.

Anyway, concupiscent nature aside, kismesissitude and matespritship aren't the same thing. And a kismesis is more than just someone you argue with. It's...have you ever hated someone so much that you wanted to hit them and kiss them at the same time?

[Not that it's that simple but she's using her own experience as a basis and that's...flawed to say the least]

You Know Of Magic That Could Aid In Sleeping
Ive Never Heard Of Such A Thing Nor Knew that Magic Could

I Suggest You Speak To Karkat About Matters Involving Romance
Although If You So Need I Will Explain
Also If I May Ask Who Are You Attempting To Be Red With

Humans aren't too hot on black romance, you're right. Lady Gaga aside. I wouldn't call it impossible, but me, personally?

Not so much with the wanting to kiss people I hate. Mostly I just want to smack 'em and not deal with them again. A friend of mine had something like that going on, but... it just-- didn't seem healthy.

My magic can do whatever I want it to, as long as I'm willing to deal with the consequences. Which in this case are minimal and just me running out of supplies. Did you want a sleep aid thing?

Who's Karkat? If I've run into them I haven't gotten their name.

It's the Eridan that most people seem to be less familiar with. The one that isn't a racist asshole-- not that I've talked to him that much, but hoo boy, is that a reputation that spreads fast.

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